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Input on Navigation of Slashcode

posted by Krow on 03:12 PM January 1st, 2002   Printer-friendly   Email story
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I'm just looking for input on a site change. If you are logged in you will notice a change in the Navigation box. Do you find this more useful then the menus over most of the pages? Especially for just finding/modifying info on your account?
BTW, if you don't have an account, now is the perfect time to create one :)
Thanks
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  • Is it just a templet change?
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    "How about you interface with my ass? By biting it!" --Bender
    • Yep, its a template with a little intelligence. It just displays different values based on you being logged in or not.
      Mainly I am wondering if it makes for better navigation.
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      • I think so. Can I have the template?
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        • <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/about.shtml">About</A><BR>
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/slashcode.rss">XML/RSS</A><BR>
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/faq.shtml">FAQ</A><BR>
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/comments.pl">Discussions</A><BR>
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/journal.pl">Journals</A><BR>
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/topics.pl">Topics</A><BR>
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/authors.pl">Editors</A><BR>
          <HR NOSHADE SIZE="1">
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/search.pl">Older Stuff</A><BR>
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/pollBooth.pl">Past Polls</A><BR>
          <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/submit.pl">Submit Story</A><BR>
          <HR NOSHADE SIZE="1">
          [% IF user.is_anon %]
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/">Create Account/Login</A><BR>
          [% ELSE %]
          You<br>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/info">Info</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/inbox">Inbox</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/homepage">Homepage</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/comments">Comments</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/journal">Journal</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/messages">Messages</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/misc">Misc</A><BR>
          <br>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/friends">Friends</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/foes">Foes</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/fans">Fans</A><BR>
          <br>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/password">Change Password</A><BR>
          - <A HREF="[% constants.rootdir %]/my/logout">Logout</A><BR>
          [% END %]
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  • Yes Krow, I think it is better this way. I guess people are more familiar with navigation menus on the left than on top. Besides, the way it was before you had to click "Preferences" on the left to be able to see the different sections (info, homepage, comments, etc.) an user can change.
  • Some of this reflected in the slashcode theme? Like the little printer icons on stories now. And how about an email the story to someone button?
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    • I could have swore I responded to this.

      We don't have an email or a print plugin. If we had them I wouldn't be against putting them in. While plugins exist for print and email I just don't think we would take someone's without asking.

      And as I have said before, email in IMHO is bad idea.

      The Navigation? Possibly. It will depend on what others think/the response for it.
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      • The print plugin [wgz.org] you're using is available under the GPL. Both you (Krow) and Pudge have contributed suggestions to it. It'd be nice to get some template fixes and that icon, though. :)

        For what it's worth, I did everything I could to enter it into the repository... Though the original wasn't my work, you're welcome to do with it as you will.

        • check the repository now. I did some fixes on it during the break. The contribution->submission though works really poorly. The source is at cvs.tangent.org.
          Feed free to play with it.
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  • how about replacing you with the appropriate username? -- why do I have to wait 15 more seconds to post this if I took only 5 to write it?
    • Because we are facists. And we hate you. And we were born on Friday the 13th under a full moon.
    • I'm not sure if having the username would catch someone's eye as much as "You" would.
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      • maybe you're right but I was thinking of how to translate it into italian [kenobi.it] because I think a direct translation would sound weird.
        Anyway, "you" should be a link to "http://blahblah/~username" (now missing in the box).

        Besides, I liked the old "this page was generated by..." randomized intro.

        • Yeah, I agree about the You link to the person's info. Even though I hate that almost because that means I see yet more underlines for links. Style stuff I hate :)

          I took the generator out of Slashcode's templates because I thought it had gotten really boring after two years of seeing it. I have been trying to think up something more original :)
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          • you don't like links? Simple: write stylesheet support. I find that current slashcode sites look very much alike, and, for one thing, color flexibility is very poor. I understand this is a Major hassle given the state of the current code. I wonder if you guys gave it some thought.
            • Color flexibility? Its cake. All a user has to do is modify a couple of variables in an interface that even lets you try out the colors beforehand.

              Style sheets? You could easily do them but there is no real point in our setup and I would think that the average user who knows next to nothing about html is a lot better off going through an interface then dinking with style sheets.
              I note that you say "I understand", I would suggest installing a site first before you make any conclusions.
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                • Flexibility is tied with useability. You have four background and four foreground colors. To many of these and the entire thing becomes to unweildy to actually use.
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                    • You know, under 1.x it was three and we extended it to four but I have no idea why. I think I may be using up to three on one of my sites.
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            • I am not sure what you are asking for. You want stylesheets? Write them and stick a link to them in your header template. Done.

              You want more colors? Add them (you can easily add more to constants; it would be nice to be able to add more to the colors block, which wouldn't be too hard, but people never have expressed interest in that, to my knowledge). What's the problem? How is color flexibility "very poor"? How is it a "Major hassle"?
  • Is the problem with shtml files fixed (menu not dynamic in them)?

    My only comment on the new menu - "Change Password" menu option wraps in Netscape (maybe use "Alter Password". I like it though.

    Yeah, I'd get rid of "ewe" and put something more useful there (user pres?)
    • "Change Password" menu option wraps in Netscape

      it wraps in IE (5.5) too. this brings up something i've been pondering: how does one change the width of the navigation box? i'm sure theres some funky table magic to it, but i'm no HTML magician. maybe this would be a useful site variable?

      --Siva
  • you forgot Freaks [slashcode.com]! or maybe its just assumed that everyone is a freak, one way or another. :P

    --Siva
    • I still bat that around in my head as something I am not sure if it should just be a feature that users who spend a little time around Slash know about :)
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