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Site Violates Slash License: What to do?

posted by Krow on 07:03 AM April 11th, 2001   Printer-friendly   Email story
Anonymous Coward writes "I found a site that appears to be Slash-based but does not offer its source code or acknowledge the Slash copyright (or left). It appears to be in violation of the GNU gpl for Slash. What should an individual do when they find commercial sites like this that seem to have appropriated Slash code in violation of the license?"
Actually its not really a violation. This comes up from time to time, but as long as you don't distribute your copy of slash, you can make all the changes you want and never give them back.
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  • it looks more like a phpnuke [phpnuke.org] that sure is another derivative from slashcode. (is it?)
    Looks like there is a whole bunch of slash-like "sites engine" out there.
    If someone has the list, can you post it!?
  • I got the following URL out of the site:

    http://www.cd-raiser.com/article.php?sid=10 7&mode= thread&order=0&thold=0

    This cannot be a slash site. IIRC I think that slash and PHP are incompatible, but I might be wrong.

  • It's definitively a PHP-Nuke [phpnuke.org] site, although slightly hacked (a trademark is the RSS channel at backend.php) [cd-raiser.com].

    PHP-Nuke is inspired by Slash, i.e. is as Linux to Unix :-) and has a huge number of installations

    --

    Check out the Slash in Italian Project [kenobi.it]

  • by Anonymous Coward
    You can try daCode [dacode.org] which is also a convenient PHP news engine. They focus on quality of the code so anyone can make module or take a look at the source without taking 6 months to understand it :)
  • by Anonymous Coward
    Here I am, a phpNuke user merely because Slash has such deep installation requirements (and now I'm growing to like PHP far better than perl for the web anyway), and I get to give back to the Slash community. :)

    Here's the list of just about every weblog/CMS known to man: http://www.fox-hunt.net/viewtopic.php?topic=14&for um=3 [fox-hunt.net]

    JoeCool

  • by Anonymous Coward
    It brings up a good question though. Is the GPL really a good license for the Web? Using something with a GPL license on your web site is much like distributing programs in the physical world. (On the web users See the results of the code, and that's the interface they use) So even though the site may not be charging anything, they are distributing an (essentially) binary form of the code. Are there any liceses' out there that address web use?
  • Is the GPL really a good license for the Web?

    I could ask if it is good for anything, but I won't. ;-)

    Using something with a GPL license on your web site is much like distributing programs in the physical world. (On the web users See the results of the code, and that's the interface they use) So even though the site may not be charging anything, they are distributing an (essentially) binary form of the code.

    How is that essentially different from using any GPL program on a public network? Should I not be allowed to use a modified Linux kernel on my router, because people who route packets through it are using my program, and I won't distribute the source? What about a GPL'd mail server or web server? Any time you use a program under such a (as of yet) mythical license that is accessible to users via a network, then you can't make changes, or you must provide the changes as source. That is a significant departure from the way things have always worked, since long before there was a web.

    The GPL works as designed. That it "doesn't apply" to web programs is not a flaw, it is part of the design.

    Are there any liceses' out there that address web use?

    I have heard the next version of the GPL will, though I hope not. It would absolutely cripple the use of Slash by commercial organizations who for one reason or another are disinclined to distribute changes, if Slash were to use such a license.

  • by Anonymous Coward
    I think a lot of people really don't understand what the GNU liscense really says. Technically, a software developers is under no obligation to provide the code to anyone who does not purchase the software. Since it is within the pruchasers rights to redistribute the code at no cost, most developers will give it away, but not all. Also, the copyright needs to be prominently displayed in the source code. Since the PHP source does not end up on the page, they are not in violation there. Finally, you only have to provide the source code if you are selling an executable. They are only providing the output of that executable. Assuming they are not selling the code to their web site, they don't need to provide the source, and then, they only need to provide the source to those that pruchase the software.